هل العدد الذي يقول ال عصا في المخطوطات مفرد أم جمع لوقا 3 9:

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1 هل العدد الذي يقول ال عصا في المخطوطات مفرد أم جمع لوقا 3 9: Holy_bible_1 15\7\2018 السؤال في الرد شبهة هل امر السيد المسيح بأخذ عصي للطريق وال آل ذكرت ان لوقا 3 9: ذكر الكلمة بالجمع. فهل هي بالمفرد ام بالجمع الرد في البداية لن اتطرق لموضوع شبهة امر المسيح بأخذ عصا او ال ألني بمعونة الرب ردت عليها في هذا الملف هل امر السيد المسيح بأخذ عصي للطريق وال آل لكن هنا أركز على العدد في انجيل لوقا الذي قال ال تأخذ أي أكثر من عصا ولكي أؤكد ان لفظ عصا بالجمع هو النص التقليدي الصحيح سأقدم التراجم المختلفة ثم المخطوطات

2 والتراجم العربي غير واضح اللفظ لتشابه المفرد مع الجمع فأقدم التراجم اإلنجليزي التي كتبت النص التقليدي بالجمع ( SVD )وقال لهم:»ال تحملوا شيئا للطريق ال عصا وال مزودا وال خبزا وال فضة وال يكون للواحد ثوبان. (ACV) And he said to them, Take nothing for the way, neither staffs, nor bag, nor bread, nor silver, nor have two coats each. (AKJ) And he said to them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor money, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (VW) And He said to them, Take nothing for the journey, neither staffs nor bag nor bread nor money; and do not have two tunics apiece. (Bishops) And he saide vnto the: Take nothing to your iourney, neither staues, nor scrippe, neither bread, neither money, neither haue two coates. (Mace) and he said to them make no provision for your journey: take neither staff, nor sack, nor bread, nor money; and but one coat for each. (DRP (Gospels)) and said to them: "Take nothing for the journey neither staffs, nor knapsack, nor bread, nor silver, neither have two tunics each. (EMTV) And He said to them, "Take nothing for the journey, neither staffs nor knapsack nor bread nor silver; and do not have two tunics apiece.

3 (EVID) And he said to them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (Geneva) And he sayd to them, Take nothing to your iourney, neither staues, nor scrip, neither bread, nor siluer, neither haue two coates apiece. (HNV) He said to them, "Take nothing for your journey--neither staffs, nor wallet, nor bread, nor money; neither have two coats apiece. (IAV NC) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (IAV) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (ISRAV) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (JST) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (JOSMTH) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (KJVCNT) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.

4 (KJCNT) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (KJV) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (KJV-Clar) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (KJV-1611) And he said vnto them, Take nothing for your iourney, neither staues, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money, neither haue two coates apeece. (KJV21) And He said unto them, "Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor pack, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (KJVA) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (LitNT) AND HE SAID TO THEM, NOTHING TAKE FOR THE WAY; NEITHER STAVES, NOR PROVISION BAG, NOR BREAD, NOR MONEY, NOR EACH TWO TUNICS TO HAVE. (LITV) And He said to them, Take nothing for the way, neither staffs, nor moneybags, nor bread, nor silver, nor each to have two tunics. (LONT) And he said to them, Provide nothing for your journey; nor staves, nor bag, nor bread, nor silver, nor two coats apiece;

5 (MKJV) And He said to them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staffs, nor a bag, nor bread, nor money, nor each to have two tunics. (NKJV) And He said to them, Take nothing for the journey, neither staffs nor bag nor bread nor money; and do not have two tunics apiece. (RNKJV) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (TMB) And He said unto them, "Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor pack, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (Tyndale) And he sayd to them: Take nothinge to sucker you by ye waye: nether staffe nor scripe nether breed nether money nether have twoo cootes. (Webster) And he said to them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staffs, nor bag, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (Wesley's) neither staves, nor scrip, nor bread, nor money: neither have two coats apiece. (WESNT) neither staves, nor scrip, nor bread, nor money: neither have two coats apiece. (WORNT) And He said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor bag, nor bread, nor money; nor two coats a piece.

6 التي كتبت النص النقدي بالمفرد (ALT) And He said to them, "Be taking nothing for the journey, neither staff nor traveler's bag nor bread nor money; neither be having two coats apiece. (AMP) And He said to them, Do not take anything for your journey--neither walking stick, nor [1] wallet [for a collection bag], nor food of any kind, nor money, and do not have two undergarments (tunics). (ASV) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staff, nor wallet, nor bread, nor money; neither have two coats. (BBE) And he said to them, Take nothing for your journey, no stick or bag or bread or money, and do not take two coats. (CEV) He told them, "Don't take anything with you! Don't take a walking stick or a traveling bag or food or money or even a change of clothes. (Darby) And he said to them, Take nothing for the way, neither staff, nor scrip, nor bread, nor money; nor to have two body-coats apiece. (DRB) And he said to them: Take nothing for your journey, neither staff, nor scrip, nor bread, nor money; neither have two coats. (ESV) And he said to them, "Take nothing for your journey, no staff, nor bag, nor bread, nor money; and do not have two tunics. [1]

7 (ERV) He said to them, "When you travel, don't take a walking stick. Also, don't carry a bag, food, or money. Take for your trip only the clothes you are wearing. (GNB) after saying to them, "Take nothing with you for the trip: no walking stick, no beggar's bag, no food, no money, not even an extra shirt. (GW) He told them, "Don't take anything along on the trip. Don't take a walking stick, traveling bag, any food, money, or a change of clothes. (ISV) He told them, "Don't take anything along on the trip-no walking stick, traveling bag, bread, money, or even an extra shirt. (NIRV) He told them, "Don't take anything for the journey. Do not take a walking stick or a bag. Do not take any bread, money or extra clothes. (NIV) He told them: "Take nothing for the journey--no staff, no bag, no bread, no money, no extra tunic. (NRSV) He said to them, "Take nothing for your journey, no staff, nor bag, nor bread, nor money-- not even an extra tunic. (RV) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staff, nor wallet, nor bread, nor money; neither have two coats. (YLT) And he said unto them, `Take nothing for the way, neither staff, nor scrip, nor bread, nor money; neither have two coats each;

8 فكل الترجمات التي تمثل النص التقليدي واالغلبية كتبت عصي بالجمع اما التي تمثل النص النقدي كتبت مفرد النصوص اليوناني التي قالت عصي بالجمع )رابدووس( RP Byzantine Majority Text 2005 Καὶ εἴπεν πρὸς αὐτούς, Μηδὲν αἴρετε εἰς τὴν ὁδόν μήτε ῥάβδους, μήτε πήραν, μήτε ἄρτον, μήτε ἀργύριον, μήτε ἀνὰ δύο χιτῶνας ἔχειν. Greek Orthodox Church 1904 καὶ εἶπε πρὸς αὐτούς Μηδὲν αἴρετε εἰς τὴν ὁδόν, μήτε ῥάβδους μήτε πήραν μήτε ἄρτον μήτε ἀργύριον μήτε ἀνὰ δύο χιτῶνας ἔχειν. Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894 καὶ εἶπε πρὸς αὐτούς, Μηδὲν αἴρετε εἰς τὴν ὁδόν μήτε ῥάβδους, μήτε πήραν, μήτε ἄρτον, μήτε ἀργύριον, μήτε ἀνὰ δύο χιτῶνας ἔχειν. Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550 καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτούς Μηδὲν αἴρετε εἰς τὴν ὁδόν μήτε ῥάβδους, μήτε πήραν μήτε ἄρτον μήτε ἀργύριον μήτε ἀνὰ δύο χιτῶνας ἔχειν Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550 και ειπεν προς αυτους μηδεν αιρετε εις την οδον μητε ραβδους μητε πηραν μητε αρτον μητε αργυριον μητε ανα δυο χιτωνας εχειν Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894 w/o Diacritics και ειπε προς αυτους, Μηδεν αιρετε εις την οδον μητε ραβδους, μητε πηραν, μητε αρτον, μητε αργυριον, μητε ανα δυο χιτωνας εχειν.

9 Byzantine/Majority Text (2000) w/o Diacritics και ειπεν προς αυτους μηδεν αιρετε εις την οδον μητε ραβδους μητε πηραν μητε αρτον μητε αργυριον μητε ανα δυο χιτωνας εχειν (ABP-G+) και G2532 ειπε G2036 προς G4314 αυτους G1473 μηδεν G3367 αιρετε G142 εις G1519 την G3588 οδον G3598 μητε G3383 ραβδους G4464 μητε G3383 πηραν G4082 μητε G3383 αρτον G740 μητε G3383 αργυριον G694 μητε G3383 ανα G303 δυο G1417 χιτωνας G5509 εχειν G2192 (ABP+) And G2532 he said G2036 to G4314 them, G1473 [ 2 nothing G Take] G142 for G1519 the G3588 way! G3598 neither G3383 rods, G4464 nor G3383 provision bag, G4082 nor G3383 bread, G740 nor G3383 money, G694 nor G3383 [ 2 up to G303 3 two G inner garments G to have]. G2192 (IGNT+) και G2532 AND ειπεν G2036 [G5627] HE SAID προς G4314 TO G846 THEM, αυτους μηδεν G3367 NOTHING αιρετε G142 [G5720] TAKE εις G1519 FOR την G3588 THE G3598 WAY; οδον μητε G3383 NEITHER ραβδους G4464 STAVES, μητε G3383 NOR G4082 PROVISION BAG, πηραν μητε G3383 NOR αρτον G740 BREAD, μητε G3383 NOR αργυριον G694 MONEY, G3383 NOR μητε ανα G303 EACH δυο G1417 TWO χιτωνας G5509 TUNICS G2192 [G5721] TO HAVE. εχειν (SNT) και ειπεν προς αυτους μηδεν αιρετε εις την οδον μητε ραβδους μητε πηραν μητε αρτον μητε αργυριον μητε ανα δυο χιτωνας εχειν التي قالت عصا )رابدون( Nestle Greek New Testament 1904 καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτούς Μηδὲν αἴρετε εἰς τὴν ὁδόν, μήτε ῥάβδον μήτε πήραν μήτε ἄρτον μήτε ἀργύριον μήτε ἀνὰ δύο χιτῶνας ἔχειν.

10 Westcott and Hort 1881 καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτούς Μηδὲν αἴρετε εἰς τὴν ὁδόν, μήτε ῥάβδον μήτε πήραν μήτε ἄρτον μήτε ἀργύριον, μήτε δύο χιτῶνας ἔχειν. Tischendorf 8th Edition καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτούς μηδὲν αἴρετε εἰς τὴν ὁδόν, μήτε ῥάβδον μήτε πήραν μήτε ἄρτον μήτε ἀργύριον, μήτε ἀνὰ δύο χιτῶνας ἔχειν. فالحقيقة اغلبية النصوص اليوناني تؤكد النص التقليدي المخطوطات باختصار شديد كل المخطوطات التي تمثل النص التقليدي كتبت عصي على سبيل المثال اإلسكندرية من القرن الخامس وتصحيح االفرايمية وغيرها من مخطوطات الخط الكبير E 2 H K U V Γ Δ Θ Λ Π

11 ومخطوطات الخط الصغير مثل m-1141 ومجموعة المخطوطات البيزنطي التي بالمئات ومخطوطات القراءات الكنسية والترجمات الالتينية القديمة من منتصف القرن الثاني وترجمات سريانية والجوارجينية وغيرهم الكثير وكثير من اقوال اإلباء مثل يوسابيوس وغيره وكما احصى فون سودين اما التي كتبت عصا بالمفرد هي مخطوطات النص االسكندري مثل السينائية والفاتيكانية وبيزا وغيرهم ولهذا بعض علماء النقد النصي سواء تقليديين مثل سودين وأيضا نقديين مثل ديفيد بالمر قالوا ان النص الصحيح هو قراءة عصي بالجمع وهو فقط خطأ من نساخ النص االسكندري انهم جعلوها بالمفرد لتتماشى مع بقيم األسماء الموجودة في العدد التي جاءت بالمفرد وقال لهم:»ال تحملوا شيئا للطريق ال عصا وال مزودا وال خبزا وال فضة وال يكون للواحد ثوبان فلألسف نساخ الخط االسكندري وفقوا بين المفرد في الثالث كلمات التالية فجعلوا عصا بالمفرد وهذا تساؤل بالمر

12 Did an Alexandrian copyist accidentally change the number of this word to the singular in conformity with the surrounding subjects in the phrase? The ancient Greek text, alternating verse by verse with A new translation from the Greek by David Robert Palmer P, 43. وهذا ما يتماشى مع قواعد التحليل الداخلي فوجود كلمة جمع وسط مفرد هذه قراءة حادة وحسب قاعدة The hardest reading is best القراءه االصعب هي االفضل Difficilior lectio potior or Proclivi scriptioni praestat ardua ومن تكلم عليها هو بنجيل ( وبالنسبه له هي كانت القاعده االساسيه ) وأيضا قاعدة The reading which could most easily have given rise to the other readings is best. القراءه التي هي بوضوح السبب في بقية القراءات هي االفضل وهذه القاعده هي من انتاج تشندورف وهي القراءه االفضل هي التي تفسر بقية القراءات فكما قال بالمر محاولة النساخ تصحيح ما ظنوه خطأ وهو كلمة بالجمع وسط مفرد هو الذي يفسر سبب القراءة الثانية وتشابهها قاعدة If one reading appears to be an intentional correction, the reading which invited such a correction is best. لو قراءه تبدو مصححه, تكون القراءه التي دعت الي ذلك التصحيح هي االفضل

13 ولها تسميه اخري That reading which is most likely to have suffered change by copyists is best. اي القراءه التي عانت من تصحيح النساخ هي االفضل ( قبل التصحيح ) وهي اقترحها تشندورف مثل تفضيله للقراءه الحاده. وهي تعني لو كان هناك قراءه تدعوا الي التصحيح بالطبع قد يندفع ناسخ ويصححها وأيضا حسب قاعدة The reading which best fits the context or the author's theology( and ideology ) is best. القراءة التي تناسب الفكر الالهوتي للكاتب هي االفضل وكما نرى ان لوقا بوضوح في نفس العدد يطلب عن عدم اخذي شيء ثاني احتياطي )وال يكون للواحد ثوبان( فهذا يناسب فكر الكاتب لوقا البشير فاعتقد بالتحليل الخارجي والداخلي تأكدنا من ان قراءة عصي بالجمع هي الصحيحة وبهذا نكون تأكدنا ان مرقس البشير 8 6: واوصاهم ان ال يحملوا شيئا للطريق غير عصا فقط ال مزودا وال خبزا وال نحاسا في المنطقة يقصد يأخذوا عصا واحدة ولوقا البشير وقال لهم:»ال تحملوا شيئا للطريق ال عصي وال مزودا وال خبزا وال فضة وال يكون للواحد ثوبان أي ال يأخذوا عصى احتياطي للطريق واكتفي بهذا القدر

14 والمجد هلل دائما